Thanx Lotz!
Thanx Lotz!
So in the Time Machine I should compare the inequality of the 2 groups in the future?
What would one compare Animal farm`s inequality with (other than the Russian Communism) (books or other things = ok) ?
There are some excellent examples in recent history:
South Africa under Apartheid, which was dismantled almost 20 years ago. Under Apartheid, anyone who wan't a pure "white" citizen was discriminated against to the extent that they were very much second class citizens.
USA in the days of slavery right through to the Civil Rights actions in the 1960s.
India, up to 1948, ruled by England, with the enormous native population unable to have a say in their own futures.
Afghanistan, under Taliban (pre-invasion) where women and people of religion other than Islam were oppressed.
There are current examples, but that would invove politics, so I'll merely suggest that asking teachers or even ringing up a local journalist should enable you to find a couple.
Books also, there are many which fit the bill.
Orwell's own 1984, Brave New World by Aldous Huxley, right back to Plato's Republic, there are literally hunderds of books which show inequality, but those are probably the most famous examples.
If you have to read one, pick Brave New World - it's very short and available online free here.
If you need more help, just ask!
Good luck!
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Thanks!! That helped! I`ll start Brave new world!
Atheist, you've done great job!
India gained her freedom in 1947
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I'd like to know what is the utopia of the animals in 'Animal Farm'..Is it the sense of belonging or is there any other?Thanks in advance.
Their utopia is actually theory of socialism.
They will unite, defeat humans and live all together in products of their work on the farm.
All animals are equal! Sad story of socialism putted in one sentence. They thought everyone will work, as much as they can and they will all enjoy in food, drink, freedom and happiness. But why would one work for 10 hours(Boxer) if he will get the same or less as one who didn't work at all(Napoleon or any other party member)? Boxer maybe isn't the best example because he didn't argue, but others did and you know what happened then! Realization of all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others actually destroyed their utopistic idea of life.
Of course, let's see wait The Official has to say!
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Thanks for the explanation Bazarov..I wonder if I can compare that utopia to George and Lennie's in 'Of Mice and Men'..
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No problem ..I was just wondering..LOL..And still wondering..Thanks a lot for your(Bazarov) answer to my previous question.I'm not really familiar with the Russian revolution or the 20th century history itself but reading the The Atheist's and your views and comments helped a great deal.
Hi, I had to read this book for summer reading and have no idea how to answer the question that goes along with it... "Animal Farm is replete with subtle and not so subtle lessons on blind conformity and the misuse of power. What are some of the lessons you've personally taken away from the novel regarding education of the masses, knowledge of history, idealist though and class structure? Has the novel changed your worldview in any way?" Please comment back with any ideas as to how I should respond!
1a) it was because the animals were undereducated and did not have a firm knowledge of their past that they were so easily manipulated. The idea that Napoleon was the great hero of Cowshed and Snowball was working to over throw the farm, while Snowball was actually the hero and Napoleon was no where to be seen during the battle. You can see how the animals lack of general knowledge made it easy for them to hate Snowball despite him being innocent.
1b) I don't know what idealist through is so i am going to assume you meant theory and answer from there. I don't think Orwell seems to discount idealism in Animal Farm. Prior to Snowballs disappearance there seemed no reason that Animal Farm shouldn't have been viewed as a success in the making. When they were democratically motivated, and they were listening to the qualms of the animals. Then Snowball was banished and with him fell his idealism. Though Napoleon still propagated it as if you were striving toward this idealist soceity. So I think Orwell is saying be wary of anyone promising you paradise, make sure they have your best interest at heart.
1c) I think Orwell believes that class structure exists when it is allowed to exist. When the animals were under the drunkard farmer they lived in a class system. When they were under the duel leadership of Snowball and Napoleon their was no classes, one was free to be as involved or uninvolved in the government as they would like. Leadership seemed to appeal to the Pigs but they were of course the smartest. Then after Snowball was evicted from AF the class system was stricter and reinstated.
1d) I think you are the only person who can answer your own world view. I myself was because to understand a lot better Totaltalitarianism and in a swreder light.
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